It is so shocking that a NY politician is possibly .... corrupt? immoral? disappointing?
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 teach5law |
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Posts: 5 (03/10/08 04:36 PM) |
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bmorgan54 |
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Posts: 20 (03/10/08 05:09 PM) |
"It is so shocking that a NY politician is possibly .... corrupt? immoral? disappointing? "
No, and if only it were limited to New York! |
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Lazar |
N.Y. Governor Linked to Prostitution Ring | ||
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Posts: 51 (03/10/08 05:46 PM) |
N.Y. Governor Linked to Prostitution Ring AP
NEW YORK (March 10) - Gov. Eliot Spitzer, the crusading politician who built his career on rooting out corruption, apologized Monday after he was accused of involvement in a prostitution ring. He did not elaborate on the scandal, which drew calls for his resignation. His stoic wife at his side, Spitzer told reporters at a hastily called news conference: "I have acted in a way that violates my obligations to my family." "I have disappointed and failed to live up to the standard I expected of myself," he said. "I must now dedicate some time to regain the trust of my family." Spitzer's involvement in the ring was caught on a federal wiretap as part of an investigation opened in recent months, according to a law enforcement official who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing inquiry. The New York Democrat, identified in legal papers as "Client 9," met last month with at least one woman in a Washington hotel, the law enforcement official said. The prostitution ring, identified in court papers as the Emperors Club VIP, arranged connections between wealthy men and more than 50 prostitutes in New York, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles, Miami, London and Paris, prosecutors said. Four people allegedly connected to the high-end ring were arrested last week. The club's Web site displays photographs of scantily clad women with their faces hidden. It also shows hourly rates depending on whether the prostitutes were rated with one diamond, the lowest ranking, or seven diamonds, the highest. The most highly ranked prostitutes cost $5,500 an hour, prosecutors said. The scandal was first reported on The New York Times' Web site. Spitzer spoke hours later. Stunned lawmakers gathered around televisions at the state Capitol in Albany to watch, and a media mob gathered outside the office of Lt. Gov. David Paterson, who would become governor if Spitzer was to resign. It took opponents only minutes to call for his resignation. "Today's news that Eliot Spitzer was likely involved with a prostitution ring and his refusal to deny it leads to one inescapable conclusion: He has disgraced his office and the entire state of New York," said Assembly Republican leader James Tedisco. "He should resign his office immediately." Spitzer, 48, built his political reputation on rooting out corruption, including several headline-making battles with Wall Street while serving as attorney general. He stormed into the governor's office in 2006 with a historic share of the vote, vowing to continue his no-nonsense approach to fixing one of the nation's worst governments. Time magazine had named him "Crusader of the Year" when he was attorney general and the tabloids proclaimed him "Eliot Ness." But his term as governor has been marred by problems, including an unpopular plan to grant driver's licenses to illegal immigrants and a plot by his aides to smear Spitzer's main Republican nemesis. Spitzer had been expected to testify to the state Public Integrity Commission he had created to answer for his role in the scandal, in which his aides were accused of misusing state police to compile travel records to embarrass Senate Republican leader Joseph Bruno. Spitzer had served two terms as attorney general where he pursued criminal and civil cases and cracked down on misconduct and conflicts of interests on Wall Street and in corporate America. He had previously been a prosecutor in the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, handling organized crime and white-collar crime cases. His cases as state attorney general included a few criminal prosecutions of prostitution rings and into tourism involving prostitutes. In 2004, he was part of an investigation of an escort service in New York City that resulted in the arrest of 18 people on charges of promoting prostitution and related charges.
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Bob Olson |
It will be interesting to see what, if any, effect this will have on Marty | ||
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Posts: 539 (03/11/08 11:05 AM) |
I would guess that all of us are all wondering the same thing. Will this startling new development do anything to change the political landscape surrounding
Marty's case. It may have little or no effect or this could change everything. I will again go on public record as saying that I do not trust the special prosecutor due
to my own rather devastating experience with the AG's office. The AG has no lesser proclivity to suborn perjury (especially police officers) that Spota
did as my family and I found out personally. For Spitzer, the ends always justified the means. My wife personally sent a letter to both Spitzer and his wife
(who I understand is a wonderful woman) Silda Wall Spitzer about Marty's case. My wife put a Free Marty bumper sticker on the outside and loaded it with
the bottoms, business cards and temproary tatoos that we often used on the outside of letters we sent to Marty. I know that Silda (a Harvard attorney) often
fought with her husband over the death penalty (she was greatly indignant over wrongful convictions) and I can't help but wonder if she has been following
Marty's case closely. I was always hoping that she would get more personally involved with Marty's case. Who knows? Maybe, now that her husband has
disrespected her and their children, she now will. My family and I feel especially sorry for her. Maybe, it is time for the "steamroller" be at the
receiving end of his own out of control tactics. I know that there aren't many people shedding tears for him here in NY. Live by the sword, die by the
sword. What goes around, comes around and we all reap what we sow.
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bmorgan54 |
It will be interesting to see what, if any, effect this will have on Marty | ||
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Posts: 22 (03/12/08 05:15 PM) |
It is interesting because it now opens up the possibility for Andrew Cuomo to run for governor now that Spitzer is out of the way (I doubt David Patterson
will be in the mix in 2010). I know he wanted to run in 2006 but he knew he had no shot of beating Spitzer in the primary so he wisely ran for AG instead.
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Posts: 1038 (03/14/08 07:38 AM) |
I can tell you that I know of a prior AG before Cuomo who had a certain person in politics dead to rights with a tape of a bribe to a building inspector. He is
so brazen he even wrote a check for a measly 100.00. Tells his secretary on the tape to give the man a check in any manner he wants it. The thieif is well
connected. He has 'vacationed' in Club Fed for other situations. He has a relative who may also enjoy the accomodations. But now that Rudy G is out of
the picture it may all go away.
This certain AG (not Andy) killed the NYS OCTF investigation just like that. I am told the tape may still exist. The AG office is pretty much a farce. It is used as a stepping stone for higher places. The last AG who didn't use it that way was Louie Lefkowitz. He could care less. He just wanted to keep everything running smoothly. Does anyone need to look past Spitzer to see what the AG office is really about? BTW, the AG I speak about is NOT Spitzer. If Spitzer had it the thief would have been indicted. Not in the interest of justice, but in the interests of Spitzer. The AG was a Republican. |
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Posts: 543 (03/14/08 08:21 AM) |
The problem seems to lie in politically alienating the police and prosecutors. That seems to me to be the reason that many in power who should have come to
Marty's have refused to do so. It is all about "live and let live." Look at how many enemies Spitzer made by going after Wall Street. Politicians
with larger political aspirations don't want to make too many waves. BTW, Suffolk County was the only county in the entire state who went for Jeanine Pirro
over Cuomo in the AG race. That was directly attributed to the support of the police unions.
I just talked to a local PBA president of one of the small east end PD's just yesterday. The first thing he mentioned about Dave Patterson was that he introduced legislation in the state senate unfavorable to cops. In other words, Patterson is viewed suspiciously by police unions as being on the side of "cop killers." That may play well in Harlem, but it sure doesn't in the "red" areas of the state which is just about everywhere outside of the major inner cities of NY. Luckily, Cuomo would not have to debate his opposition to the death penalty in NYS which has been pretty much been banned (at least for now). Coumo has the other problem of having challenged H. Carl McCall in the 2002 governor's race. McCall claims that Cuomo cost him the govnership and the chance to be the first black governor of NYS. The only time a politician does the right thing is when they are forced to or if it is in their political advantage. None of them do the right thing simply because it is the right thing to do. The days of the great statesmen and leaders with consciences is long over (if there ever really was such a time). Sorry to sound so cynical but I base my beliefs on my personal observations and experiences. Marty's only hope is that the SIC is truly acting independently of the AG's office and refuses to go along with a whitewash of Marty's case. The SIC is the ace in the hole. Let's hope these guys are real investigators with integrity. It could happen. |
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Posts: 1039 (03/14/08 09:58 AM) |
BOB, funny you should mention Pirro. Her husband has connections in Suffolk - owned some land out there. Spota dissed Jeanine with the arson in Yonkers by not
telling her he had two mooks who confessed to it. Strange things can happen when you are compromised - I didn't realize the Dragon Lady had Suffolk has the
only county to support her. Hmmmmmmmmmm, the plot thickens. But Jeanine isn't there anymore, is she? She has a heap of her own problems to deal with. I
don't see her lying for Tom Spota if she is asked did Tommy and you have an agreement NOT to prosecute his witnesses? She better come up with a good one
for that. Jeanine - IT IS ON THE RECORD NOW that no such agreement exists. It is on the record that the case remained opened with Yonkers PD. If Jeanine did a
deal she would have told the detective - close the case. She DID NOT.
I spoke to someone I can't speak of and that person has already suggested to me that maybe this 'accomodation' was worked out between the detectives from Suffolk and Yonkers. This is not idle gossip and chitchat from someone who has nothing to do with the case - take my word on that one. In other words it looks as though somebody has already thought about throwing the detectives to the wolves. |
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Bob Olson |
Spota supported Pirro in the AG race | ||
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Posts: 544 (03/14/08 12:53 PM) |
While Spota did not publicly come out and campaign for Pirro in Suffolk County, he certainly did not do anything to help Cuomo too. Like Spota did for Alfred
Tisch, when he got beat for sheriff by Vinnie DeMarco, Spota has covertly supported Republicans against Democrats. That is essentially how he got cross
endorsed in 2005 for DA. Spota is closely allied with the Conservatives and Frank MacKay, Suffolk County, NYS and national chairman of the Independence Party
who I believe endorsed Pirro. Pirro's Suffolk County campaign rep was Anthony Manetta who was praised by Mackay for Pirro's success in Suffolk County.
I was introduced to Pirro at the Third Party Club when Pirro appeared at the request of MacKay. Remember, that was the year I ran for county comptroller on the Integrity Party line. I ran into Pirro on the campaign trail at an evangelical Christian Church in Smithtown of all places! Hey! I got a whopping 1% of the vote! Just check Suffolk County BOE in 2006! I made history. Spota is no friend of Andrew Cuomo. I can assure you that. However, I am not convinced that Cuomo will do anything that would hurt Spota unless he has no choice. Cuomo has higher aspirations and has Spota by the ba**s. He is likely to keep that chip to used later when he needs Spota for something. It is our mission to make sure that doesn't happen and that Cuomo doesn't slide out from underneath Marty's case in return for a political I.O.U. from Spota. That's why I am hoping against hope that the SIC isn't in Cuomo's pocket and puts the kabosh to any such plans. |
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Posts: 1040 (03/14/08 01:14 PM) |
As always, Bobby O has a keen grasp of the situation. If it benefits Cuomo, then Spota is dead meat. He will be lucky if he can get a judgeship to adjudicate
parking tickets.
We have to think about who benefits or loses by going after Spota, or not going after Spota. Spota has many enemies, many not obvious. |
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4zkidz |
Spitzer paves the way for Spota | ||
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Posts: 270 (03/15/08 02:28 AM) |
As always, Bob is correct!
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Posts: 1043 (03/17/08 09:46 AM) |
READ THE NY POST TODAY AND YOU WILL BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW FVCKED UP WE ARE. You will know it when you see it. EVERYBODY LIES!!!
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momof2girlz |
Can you elaborate? | ||
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Posts: 17 (03/19/08 08:41 AM) |
I don't get the Post but you have sparked my interest.
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Posts: 1047 (03/19/08 09:28 AM) |
LOL - there is so much going on you forget what you were talking about. I am sure it was David Paterson issue of philandering. The Post was the first to cover
it. It does get better since then : It is now about PHILANDERING(s) Or, I might have been talking about McGreevy. There is no end to this, is there?
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